What inspires me about this interview is that I find a lot of ‘me’ in what he says. As a novelist and artist he doesn’t reject the work of the unconscious but rather wants to synthesize himself with an ‘internal music’ resonating from within that at times wants to show itself to the world. In jotting down colours on canvass, or in whistling while walking down the street, in playing music following the rhythms of our body we are letting go of the rigid analytical mind and letting the mind and body wander and thus setting it free to affect and be affected. “I wander, therefore I am,” I would say, rather than “cogito ergo sum”. However, I am not saying we should reject the analytical mind either, as Pamuk says, writing is about the cooperation of two ambivalent modalities of being: we are architects and surrealists, yin and yang, creation and destruction.
There is a lot on this topic that I want to expand in my future posts, because I find the situation of art in our times tragic. We have all become architects; weather or not we studied engineering, we are all structured ‘constructivists’ ready to build something conceptual, social, and good for civilization.. we are so busy building that we are forgetting the most beautiful part of our humanity: art = something deeply immoral and troublesome because inherently unproductive (unless it can be bought and sold, of course). Remember that it was Nietzsche who regarded art as being the highest expression of the human spirit.
The architectural, economic model we live in today is so focused on giving us productivity that it doesn’t give us the time to nor the ‘knowledge that we can’ synthesize with ourselves, be playful and find our artists. The beauty in Pamuk’s interview lays in his call to humanity, a call to pause our rational constructive efforts and wave in our rhythms to find those colours and those sounds.